A conversation with daylily hybridizer, Karol Emmerich

  Before I get started, let me share a sampling of Karol Emmerich's fabulous daylily seedlings:

                                       Emmerich seedling #4115

                                         Emmerich seedling #7413

                                       Emmerich seedling #14212

                                      Emmerich seedling #20110

                                     Emmerich seedling #23513

    It is a real pleasure to share this interview with Karol Emmerich today.  I have never actually met Karol, but hope to someday.  I have read Karol's articles in the American Hemerocallis Society's Journal and corresponded with her via email over the years.  She is very honest about her daylilies and how she approaches her hybridizing, which is refreshing in these days where most hybridizers act like their hybridizing is a top secret operation.  I also appreciate that when she displays pictures of her intros on her website she uses multiple photos to show how the daylily bloom looks on various days.  More hybridizers need to embrace Karol's approach.  With nothing further here is my interview with Karol:

1. How did you first get interested in daylilies?

Karol: When I started gardening in my early 20's, I discovered that in the cold zone 4 of Minnesota I needed tough plants, and those were daylilies and hostas. They became the anchors of the garden, and I had soon collected over 1000 daylily varieties and 275 hosta varieties - as well as hundreds of other perennials.

2. How did you get interested in hybridizing them?

Karol: When I retired from my corporate job in 1993, I had a steady stream of visitors to the garden, many wondering why someone who'd experienced such success in the corporate world had turned her back on it all.  The garden turned out to be a safe place to talk about whatever was on their mind.  As we strolled through the garden, people often commented on the names of the flowers. I thought about the discussions that might happen if the garden were full of thoughtful, encouraging, inspirational names, but at the time, it seemed that most daylilies with the names I wanted were boring or too tender for Minnesota.  A daylily friend told me that if you hybridize and introduce a plant you can name it, so I started hybridizing with the singular goal of making flowers so beautiful they would stop visitors in their tracks so they would look at the names and perhaps ask about them. Pretty soon I started to daydream about how great it would be to have flowers with inspiring names not just in my own garden, but in millions of gardens across the country.  At that point in time, I had never made a cross and had absolutely no idea if I'd be any good at hybridizing.  But I jumped in with everything that was in me and didn't look back. 

3. What were your initial goals in hybridizing?

Karol: To make purple daylilies that were gorgeous and sassy, large (6-7"), hardy, well branched with good budcount, great substance, easy opening, sunfast, more opened form than perfectly round with fancy edges and saturated color. 

4. Which daylily hybridizers influenced you in the beginning?

Karol: I loved the colors of my Munson daylilies, the color saturation of the Moldovan purples, the superb plant habit and edges of Pat Stamile, the fanciness and easy opening of Larry Grace's Clothed in Glory and it's offspring Lifting Me Higher, the chalky eye and dormancy and easy opening of Jack Carpenter's Tet. Lavender Blue Baby, and Tom Wilson's Tet. Painted Rose.

At first I crossed Stamile with Munson and got round daylilies with good branching and great substance, but no fancy edges at all.  I crossed the Stamile pinks from his days in New York with those of Tom Wilson, but alas, the southern blood of Tet. Painted Rose was too strong and almost all of them died.  What did work exceptionally well was mixing Lifting Me Higher (not hardy in Minnesota) and Tet. Lavender Blue Baby genes and some of the Moldovan things.  Lifting Me Higher and it's offspring (like Heartbeat of Heaven, Desire of Nations, Kingdom Without End, Born to Reign, etc) are in more than 100 of my 175 introductions. Tet. Lavender Blue Baby genetics are in almost as many.  

5. What are some of the challenges you've had in hybridizing?

Karol: Trying to produce fancy looks in zone 4 (which has required using tender or less than perfect parents at times, which sometimes works out but often doesn't), the physical challenges since I do most of the digging and washing myself, the constant weeding, deer (we solved that one in our problem area with an electric fence), the sheer number of seedlings that you have to grow to get one that is introducible (my ratio has been 1 out of 450 over the years), and having some gorgeous intros that for some reason don't capture people's hearts from the catalog picture so you end up giving them away as gift plants at regional and national events (and they end up winning an Honorable Mention a few years later because people who grow them soon understand why I thought they were special).  In terms of the greenhouse, there's the cost of running it during the winter months, mechanical things that can go wrong with the temperature sensor, computer, shade curtains, Dosatron, vents and other mechanical things.  Plus the thrips and spider mites that you always need to stay on top of.  And year round weeds!

6. What are your favorite daylilies?

Karol: That depends on the day (Lol!) and whether or not by favorite you mean my favorite to use in hybridizing or as focal points in the garden.  For hybridizing, it has always been the purples and chalky eyes.  In the garden, it's the plant that grows quickly and has fabulous color and you don't need to be standing right on top of it to appreciate it.  

Thanks Karol!  Now here are some of Karol's favorite seedlings: 

                                       Emmerich seedling #42212

                                       Emmerich seedling #15214

                                       Emmerich seedling #31214

                                      Emmerich seedling #17515

                                      Emmerich seedling #11816

                                      Emmerich seedling #19316

                            

                                       Emmerich seedling #5916

Also here are some of Karol Emmerich's favorite intros: 

           

                                   Thistles and Thorns (Emmerich)

                            Shining Through The Darkness (Emmerich)

                                      Broken Chains (Emmerich)

                                      Lily Among Thorns (Emmerich)

               All Things To All Men (Emmerich) photo courtesy of Paul K. Lewis

                                     Kingdom Bound (Emmerich)

Here's some other pictures of some of Karol's other great intros:

               Soli Deo Gloria (Emmerich) Photo courtesy of Paul K. Lewis

      

               Desire of Nations (Emmerich) Photo courtesy of Paul K. Lewis

                 Rich in Mercy (Emmerich) Photo courtesy of Theresa Maris

        Faith That Moves Mountains (Emmerich) Photo courtesy of Paul K. Lewis

             Skin Of My Teeth (Emmerich) Photo courtesy of Paul K. Lewis

                   Broken Chains (Emmerich) Photo courtesy of Mary Baker

                    Mount Ararat (Emmerich) Photo courtesy of Mary Baker

                    Mount Ararat (Emmerich) Photo courtesy of Mary Baker

I hope you have enjoyed this visit with Karol Emmerich.  Special thanks to Karol for taking the time to answer all those questions and providing me with all the photographs.  Just a reminder that all the photographs are the property of Karol Emmerich and use without prior consent is prohibited.  You can visit Karol Emmerich's website at www.springwoodgardens.com.  Also Karol has a wonderful daylily blog at www.springwoodgardens.blogspot.com  Next installment will be on bitone daylilies from across the country.  Also thank you to Mary Baker and Theresa Maris for sharing their photographs.  

A conversation with daylily hybridizer, Lee Pickles

            Stolen Heart (Lee Pickles 2016) photo courtesy of Rich Howard.

            Groovin (Lee Pickles 2011) Photo courtesy of Verna Habermel.

           Seedling 5025 (Lee Pickles)  (Camelot Red X Blazing Cannons)

           Seedling 2041 (Lee Pickles)  (Stolen Heart X Barbara Mandrell)

    Having always had an admiration for red tetraploid daylilies, it is an honor to have Lee Pickles as our guest today.  I have enjoyed watching Lee's most recent developments with his advancements in red daylilies both on Facebook and on his blog.  With nothing further, here is my feature about how Lee's love of daylilies unfolded: (The first section was written by Lee Pickles.)

 My life began in Iowa on March 15th, 1936, so I will be 81 soon. (still younger than Tommy Maddox) Grew up and lived in Iowa.  Married to Jean Ivelle Manley in 1957. Graduated from Ellsworth Community College, Iowa Falls, IA in 1960, Iowa State Teachers College (now University of Northern Iowa) in 1962 with a Bachelor's Degree and Iowa State University in 1969 with a Master's Degree.  Have done further PhD work at the University of Nebraska and the University of Tennessee.

In 1962 I began teaching vocational printing at Thomas Jefferson High School in Council Bluffs, IA. In 1968 I joined Iowa Western Community College in Council Bluffs in administration.  In 1973 I was employed at the University of Nebraska Medical Center in Omaha in medical administration. In 1974 the opportunity presented itself to move to Chattanooga as Executive Assistant to the Dean of the University of Tennessee College of Medicine and Director of Continuing Medical Education.

Up to this point, I had no interest in flowers or gardening.  We purchased a house in a suburb of Chattanooga.  Jean's mother was an avid flower gardener and grew many varieties of flowers including the daylily, Hyperion, which was the first daylily we ever planted.  At the time, I had no idea there were any other colors of daylilies.

Time passed and in 1985 I happened upon a daylily show at a local mall and saw the many varieties and colors of daylilies.  I was particularly taken with H. Lullaby Baby and it all began there.

1. Which daylily hybiridizers influenced you in the beginning and which ones do now?

When I began my interest in daylilies, I met Denver Scott, a local hybridizer (hybridized the baseball named theme daylilies) at my first meeting of the Tennessee Valley Daylily Society. He began talking to me about creating my own daylilies and got me excited about hybridizing. Denver would mix all of his eyed and edged pollen together and use it to hybridize. He also did this with all others, purples, reds, yellows, etc. He was not interested in keeping parentage of crosses. Then I met Dr. C. E. (Doc) Branch
of Piper City, IL. Doc took me under his wings and shared many of his intros and cultivars from other various hybridizers with me. Doc probably had the most influence on me of all that I came into contact with. Last but not least was Dr. Bob Carr of Ocala, FL. Not only did he instruct me on hybridizing, but was a very good friend. I would visit Bob and we would sit out under his old oak tree, where he placed his potted hybridizing plants, waiting for the temperature to hit 60º so he could start hybridizing. Bob would spend most of the winter planning his crosses for the following summer and would very seldom vary from those plans. We would talk almost nightly and because of his humor, do a lot of giggling. My wife said we sounded like a couple teenage girls on the phone. Bob spent the last couple months in the hospital with complications of diabetes. He called me and asked if I would send him some pictures of my seedling bloom that summer as he did not get to see any. I sent him about a dozen and after looking them called me and asked if a certain seedling panned out would I name it for him. Thus H. 'Robert W. Carr' in his memory. 

2. What were your initial goals for your hybridizing? What are they today?

My original hybridizing was a shotgun approach, hybridizing most colors and patterns. Probably of those, yellows were my favorite. I have now settled on red as my major hybridizing color. In 2008, Jeff and Elizabeth Salter visited with us and spent the night on their way to the Ohio gardens. Jeff brought me a numbered seedling, he said, "To play with". At the same time I saw a red seedling of Larry Graces in the garden of Bill Waldrop. I called Larry and asked if I could purchase a piece of the seedling. He said he was not selling it yet but would guest a piece with me. I used those two seedlings which would end up being named H. 'Camelot Red (Salter), and H. 'Home of the Free' (Grace). Along the way I also acquired H. 'Doug's Caress' (Holly), and H. 'Barbara Mandrell' (Kirchhoff). All became the beginning of my red program.

3.Talk about some of the challenges you've had with your hybridizing?

I think it was 2006 or 7 that Bob Carr called me and said he did not get his 30,000 seeds that year and did I have some that I would like to send for him to plant. Of the 500 seeds that I sent, one was special and was eventually named H. 'Awesome Bob'. I was planning to introduce it in 2010 and had taken orders in the fall of 2009. Something happened that killed every plant in the greenhouse, including my new seedlings, my hybridizing plants and all of the H.'Awesome Bob' that I had taken orders for. Luckily, Bob also had a supply that I could use to fill orders. Currently my physical health has presented a challenge.

4. What are some of your favorite daylilies from other hybridizers and those of your own?

Some cultivar favorites from other hybridizers are: H. 'Camelot Red' (Salter), H. 'Home of the Free' (Grace), H. 'Barbara Mandrell' (Kirchhoff), H. ' Wonder of it All' (Carr) and H. 'Blazing Canons' Waldrop. I also like the green edges from Tommy Maddox, and the form from Bill Maryott.

Some cultivar favorites from my own hybridizing program are: H. 'Doc Branch', H. Awesome Bob', H. 'Horny Devil', H. 'Jaimie Pickles' (named for our son), H. 'Nicole Pickles' (named for our daughter in law), H. 'Stolen Heart', and from way back, diploids H. "Bonbini' and H. 'Choo Choo Caboose'.


Here are some of Lee Pickles select seedlings:  

                Seedling 4025 ( Lee Pickles)

Seedling 5033 (Lee Pickles) (Marines Hymm X Sister Valerie)

 Seedling 6037 (Lee Pickles) (Bogart X Ultimate Sacrifice)

Seedling 6062 (Lee Pickles) (Marines Hymm X Velvet Throne)

Seedling 2051 (Lee Pickles) (Desire of Nations X Bluegrass Memories)

 Seedling 3077 (Lee Pickles) (Desire of Nations X Bluegrass Memories)



Here are some of Lee Pickle's favorite introductions: 

 1. Choo Choo Caboose (Lee Pickles 1998)

               2. Doc Branch (Lee Pickles 1998)

              3. Jean Pickles (Lee Pickles 2008)

4. Horny Devil (Lee Pickles 2007) photo courtesy of Paul K. Lewis

            5. Jaimie Pickles (Lee Pickles 2016)

             6. Nicole Pickles (Lee Pickles 2016)

               7. Stolen Heart (Lee Pickles 2016)



I hope you enjoyed this visit with Lee.  Stay tuned for our next segment where I will feature northern daylily hybridizer, Karol Emmerich and some of her fantastic seedlings.  Special thanks to Lee Pickles for taking the time to answer these questions and share his photos.  If you would like to visit Lee Pickle's website, you may do so by logging on to:  http://chattanoogadaylilies.com/2017Introductions.html.  All images are the property of Lee Pickles and use without prior consent is prohibited.  Thanks for checking in folks.